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Old 07-27-2007, 06:55 AM
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I can't speak for anyone else but the biggest thing that keeps me from taking the linux plunge is that the particular programs I use aren't available for it. I know there are linux options for all of them, but I don't like those options. I'm fussy about the programs I use to what some would consider an absurd degree.
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Old 08-16-2007, 04:52 PM
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Exclamation excuses

To me it sounds like excuses to not endorse/support a product that you don’t fully understand.

I use windows and Linux both on a daily basis. IMO and it’s only my opinion but windows for the OS and the software will never compare to the investment you put into Linux.

Windows os =$200 -$400. But wait, something I don’t hear mentioned is MS office. Look at the price going up... WoW you could easily be over $500 between the two of them.

Codec's should be nothing when choosing an operating system. What should be considered is ease of use, stability, applications that it will be used for. And availability of assistance if problems should occur.

Let’s look at those shall we. Linux has become easy to use. Depending on distro you chose that is. On stability, can anybody argue that Linux is not stable?? Aside from gaming, Linux is great for internet, reports (via open office), Blogging, you tube, maps... about anything you want to do.

Bells and whistles you say?

When it comes to a GUI environment, can windows say they have anything close to what XGL / Compiz can do? Aero engine in Vista is far behind what can be done in Linux.

Whatever personal reason you might have against Linux, don’t let it overflow to where you are scaring off others from looking. Especially because of a small issue of codec’s that can easily be obtained a lot cheaper then the purchase price of a windows operating system, not to mention the other supporting software needed in windows to do what Linux can do for free.

And btw,

I read the article about windows at $200 is a better deal then Linux free.

Honestly that is a comment of a windows biggot.

how about a comparison

OS = free
Office compulation = free
Gimp = free
Firefox > I.E. 6 or 7To me it sounds like excuses to not endorse/support a product that you don’t fully understand.

I use windows and Linux both on a daily basis. IMO and it’s only my opinion but windows for the OS and the software will never compare to the investment you put into Linux.

Windows os =$200 -$400. But wait, something I don’t hear mentioned is MS office. Look at the price going up... WoW you could easily be over $500 between the two of them.

Codec's should be nothing when choosing an operating system. What should be considered is ease of use, stability, applications that it will be used for. And availability of assistance if problems should occur.

Let’s look at those shall we. Linux has become easy to use. Depending on distro you chose that is. On stability, can anybody argue that Linux is not stable?? Aside from gaming, Linux is great for internet, reports (via open office), Blogging, you tube, maps... about anything you want to do.

Bells and whistles you say?

When it comes to a GUI environment, can windows say they have anything close to what XGL / Compiz can do? Aero engine in Vista is far behind what can be done in Linux.

Whatever personal reason you might have against Linux, don’t let it overflow to where you are scaring off others from looking. Especially because of a small issue of codec’s that can easily be obtained a lot cheaper then the purchase price of a windows operating system, not to mention the other supporting software needed in windows to do what Linux can do for free.

And btw,

I read your article about windows at $200 is a better deal then Linux free.
Honestly that is a comment of a windows biggot. Not an objective tech trying to help his fellow computer user. Here are true comparisons between linux and windows

Price---- Linux > windows free vs $100's there is no comparison.

Open Office price > - MS Office price and its comparable software.

Gimp > PHOTOSHOP - on comparison based on free to $100’s.

Firefox > I.E. - Firefox has been a few steps ahead of windows for a long time now.

Linux stability > Windows Stability - "past and present versions".

Yum / APT > Microsoft updates - Yum or apt updates all software not just Microsoft.

Linux Support > Microsoft support. Free online community always helpful and on average more intelligent.


I guess I have gone on enough..
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Old 08-16-2007, 05:03 PM
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omg,

so becuase he didnt want to spend a few $ for codec's he would spend $100's on Microsoft. sounds like someone that always wants something easy without any research.

waist your money if your that easy to scare.
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Old 08-17-2007, 06:49 PM
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The trouble with all *nix solutions is that they are not compatible with MS Office or only offer compatibility for a few of the Office applications. Collaboration becomes a major issue between *nix application software and MS application software. At best the *nix applications are only compatible with old versions of MS applications and do not handle collaboration, only file exchange.

Examples are Outlook Web Access, Map Point and Visio.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:37 PM
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yeah...

Actually,


Open Office is compatible with all but the most current ver of office 2007. And i do believe that if you was to get the pay ver of star office you can read them now. or you could just get cross over office and use MS office. And the cost factor is much less.

The bottom line is that there is a compatible / equal application for 99% of all software in windows.

The only area where Linux (no need to say *nix because anybody at home is using linux for the most part because its FREE) is lacking is the gaming environment. for desktop effects, windows cant even get close now.

BTW I am writing this on my XP system (because I am about to play some wc3 online).

I am not imposing my opinion on anybody on what they should use at home. They are both adequate in todays world. but $ for $ Linux is a better deal no matter how you look at it. I am Network Admin in a Dominated windows environment. Thats why I went Linux whenever I could. *** STABILITY ***
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:00 AM
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I am a home user and I would never consider Linux. I use FreeBSD and have used other *nix products over the years such as Unix System III and Unix System V. I use FreeBSD because of the license restrictions on Linux that require modifications be disclosed and freely distributed. I can make proprietary changes to FreeBSD.

Do the newer versions of Open Office have MS Office Map Point support or MS Office Visio support, etc.? Those are the kinds of office applications I've found lacking in *nix office replacement products. It is easy to find compatible word processing and spread sheet products.

BTW I have Windows servers at home that are booted just once a year during when the kernel is patched. No other patches require a reboot in spite of MS advice to the contrary. One needs only restart the affected services or GUI.

I've found no real stability differences between a properly configured and maintained Windows box and a similar *nix box. Windows is much easier to configure and maintain.
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